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amiga | 7 years ago | 12 comments | 1 like | 1.8K views

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I read the request @kugo wrote last week about pause markers with interest. Not sure if he/she wants the same as me, or if there is a better way already for me to do what I want. Hopefully one of you really great artists out there can help.

I want to use BluffTitler at a party to do a trivia contest. Ideally, BT would dynamically display a question (from XML text of course), and pause holding the question on screen. Then when I’m ready, cycle (resume to the next line in the XML file) after I hit a key to display the next XML list item (the answer), but only when I’m ready.

An example XML file would look something like this:



Question #01
Answer #01
Question #02
Answer #02
…….. (more questions/answers)
(edit - sorry, it I forgot this forum doesn't display XML - use your imagination above)

I played around using the included script \Media\Shows\DynamicContent\CreditRoll.bt (using the above XML file), and tried using the F4 key to manually stop/restart the show, but that’s problematic for multiple reasons.

1. I can’t always time my pressing of F4 to stop it precisely after the question has been displayed, but before the answer has come up.



2. As @michiel already said in that same post, it restarts the show if it’s almost finished, which will loop it back to displaying “Question #01” each time I manually pause near the end of the timeline...

Obviously I want the show to continue to the next dynamic line item (the answer), after I’m ready for it by hitting a hot key (or something) and also not have it restart the show at list item #1 each time if the show is paused near the end of the timeline.

@michiel, would a possible future feature allow me to do what I want, aka the Pause Marker request by @kudo?

Or, do any of you other inspiring BT killers have a better suggestion to accomplish my Trivia Contest show?

Thanks all!!!

Amiga




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I think I would be more tempted to do what you want to do with MS PowerPoint.

MrGruntHunter, 7 years ago


Thanks, and I already thought about that... But, BT is just so cool! How can I resist? FYI, I used to use Scala Infochannel (both in my real Amiga 4000 days, and later on a PC too - with really amazing interaction capability between the user and the show), but the older Scala version I own stopped working around Win7, and with the newer versions of Scala WAY out of a hobby-price range, I'm falling back on a more affordable, and WAY more beautiful, BT! ;-)

I recently tried emulation of an older Windows version, which worked for Scala, but I'd rather instead focus my support on a tool that works today, without all the hassles. Besides, as I said before BT is just so cool! There are so many effects out there, and a HUGE friendly support base!

Thanks again,
Amiga

amiga, 7 years ago

Well, Amiga

Thank you of thinking of BluffTitler for your to go to method to solve this issue.

I could give you some guidance but all answers would leave you out of the game.

Just download an trivia app on your phone and cast it to a screen.
Or get a boardgame to gather around, not only makes this more random and fun it will get you a place on the table as an equal participant.

If you are hell bent to be the game master and leave nothing to chance.

Each layer can have a link added in the Layer\active layer properties.
Make for all questions shows, add the answers in form of text, pictures or eps to the corresponding shows.

komies, 7 years ago


@komies... Well, if that isn't one of the neatest things I have ever found (thank you!), but I'm greedy... If I felt like creating about 100 shows, each with either a question and/or an answer, then using that feature (previously unknown to me!), it would be perfect! Unfortunately, I'm crazy, but not THAT crazy! ;-)

Thanks anyway for that cool tip, but I'm going to keep hoping Michiel may implement some sort of interactive pause/resume feature like @kudo hoped to get, and also keep my fingers crossed that if he chooses to do it, it won't reset a dynamic content show to the first item in the XML.

Dynamic content really would be the perfect solution, if I have some way of pausing it. I have literally hundreds of Q and A's.

As a last resort, I can always just put a huge space of time before bringing the text on-screen, still using dynamic content, but giving myself time at the BEGINNING of the show to pause it, (using F4) which theoretically wouldn't make it restart at the beginning.

Amiga

amiga, 7 years ago

Then do it the YouTube way:

Give all the questions, and let them answer in a amount of time and tell them if it is right or wrong OR let them write it down and show the answers after the questions.

Now you have multiple ways proceed to save your game night, or are you postponing your game night until you have the perfect answer.

I believe it come to this: "use the right tool for the right job"

of course you can mow the lawn with a nail clipper, or clean the floor with a toothbrush but when you have a choice why choose that?

komies, 7 years ago


That would be very useful to have keyboard and/or mouse control in that manner.

Then with an XBOX360 wireless controller coupled with Xpadder the show could be controlled from any where in the room. Cool

Sarge

SMSgtRod, 7 years ago

I had in the past a program that could be used for this type of programming.
It was called "Klik and Play", it was quite simple and you could create all kind of games or trivia and possible even simple e-learning modules. You could make a executable program en distribute this program freely.
As the program evolved I left it behind me.
I don't think that Blufftitler is evolving this way (I hope).
Maybe this is something to explore:
en.wikipedia.org...
clickteam.com

Filip, 7 years ago



I think I would turn the answers into buttons.

Choose LAYER > ACTIVE LAYER PROPERTIES... to turn the active layer into a button.

In this screenshot I linked the correct answer to the show Question1_CorrectAnswer.bt. This way this show is opened when you click on the correct answer.

The show can display a huge "Congratulations, you gave the correct answer!" text.

And when you add a "Go to the next question" button , you can easily click through the whole quiz show!

michiel, 7 years ago


Thanks Michiel, same great suggestion as komies (for a cool feature I never knew existed!). It would work great, but I have hundreds of Q/A’s, and I hoped to periodically bring them up on the screen throughout the party continuing where I left off. Creating all those individual shows would be a burden with so many questions.

I realize it probably isn’t a priority, but if you could make an automatic pause feature (like a "pause after xx seconds") on the timeline (enabling a resume from a hotkey), AND make it so a dynamic content show wouldn’t restart if paused near the end of the show, my problems are solved! My party isn’t until the end of January, so if you are looking for something to give me for Christmas… ;-) (just kidding - you have been SO generous over the years with this program!)

@Filip, thanks too for the suggestion. I have played around with a similar program (AutoIt – essentially a Windows scripting program but makes its own executable too), and am just stubborn and wanting to use the beauty of BT. There’s no way any standard trivia question display program out there can come close to the spectacular presentation of BT.

I’ll see what happens over the holidays, and if nothing else I can fall back on my workaround. That’s using dynamic content with a long (3-5 seconds) of delay before bringing up the dynamic text, enabling me to pause (using F4 each time) the show at the beginning. It’s more labor intensive, and subject to me accidentally not hitting the button at the right time, but it would work. Then I can use some of these fantastic shows everyone has shared in the past to make it look like magic on the screen!

Thanks all!!
Amiga

amiga, 7 years ago

A script, like for example PHP, can read your questions from a database and generate the BluffTitler shows for you. The same script can keep track of the score and place this in a text layer.

michiel, 7 years ago


A video is easily paused, or is this too simple.

komies, 7 years ago


Pause markers would be very helpful in live situations where timing is key. Of course a simple Play/Pause toggle shortcut would be a great addition to this a well. While Blufftitler has an enormous amount of graphics abilities I think more support/effort could be focused on controlling it. Having the power of realtime 3D graphics at this level, it is unfortunate some of these simple control features are missing. Good luck Amiga!

kugo, 7 years ago

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