terrypin | 13 years ago | 7 comments | 3.1K views
I've raised this with MAGIX Technical Support but from previous experience I'm not optimistic about a helpful response. I wonder if anyone here has any suggestion about any settings I might try in BT to work around it please?
The files I'm exporting from a BT show are 1920 x 1080 compressed AVI, H264, top quality. They play OK in all my players, such as VLC, WMP11, MPC, PowerDVD and VirtuaDub. But in my video editor, MAGIX Movie Edit Pro (both latest versions) the last frame is not displayed.
This can entirely spoil some shows.
Any ideas please?
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Terry, UK
I'm sure Michiel will step in and help you, but maybe my comments might be of some assistance.
When you do "Export as Movie" there is a check box that says "Include last Frame".
Do you have that checked?
IBMedia, 13 years ago
Indeed, mark the INCLUDE LAST FRAME checkbox in the FILE > EXPORT AS MOVIE... dialog.
michiel, 13 years ago
I already had that check marked. Makes no difference either way. (BTW, Why would anyone not NOT want to 'include the last frame'?)
One workaround I found was to specify Uncompressed. After import into MEP the last frame is then included. Strangely, i noted that the first 7 frames are now always empty - a different puzzle but easily fixed of course. This results in enormous files, so I'm still keen to hear any other ideas please.
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Terry, UK
terrypin, 13 years ago
I understand, BluffTitler has the option "Include last picture" in exporting
In Adobe Premiere, Final Cut, After Effects, Motion, export correctly.
It would be a good opportunity to export directly into h.264.
Tony Peppers 3D, 13 years ago
Isn't that the option we've just been discussing?
What do you mean by 'export directly into h.264'? Isn't that what I'm doing? (" The files I'm exporting from a BT show are 1920 x 1080 compressed AVI, H264, top quality.")
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
terrypin, 13 years ago
There are good reasons for not exporting the last frame. Probably the same reasons why your video editor is ignoring it if you do export it.
The INCLUDE LAST FRAME checkbox in the FILE > EXPORT AS MOVIE... dialog is refering to the last frame of the show. For example when your show has a duration of 1 second, this last frame starts at exactly 1 second after the beginning of the show.
Now when you export this 1 second show at 10 frames a second, the exported video file has 10 frames. When playing this video, each frame is displayed for 0.1 second which gives a total duration of 10 x 0.1 = 1 second. Nothing wrong you will say. However the start time of the last frame is not at 1 second, but at 0.9 second:
frame 1: start time: 0 second
frame 2: start time: 0.1 second
frame 3: start time: 0.2 second
frame 4: start time: 0.3 second
frame 5: start time: 0.4 second
frame 6: start time: 0.5 second
frame 7: start time: 0.6 second
frame 8: start time: 0.7 second
frame 9: start time: 0.8 second
frame 10: start time: 0.9 second
This means that the last frame of the show, starting at 1 second is not included in the video file. The last exported frame ends at 1 second, but it starts at 0.9 second.
When marking the INCLUDE LAST FRAME checkbox, BluffTitler adds an extra frame:
frame 11: start time: 1.0 second
Now the video file has a duration of 11 x 0.1 - 1.1 second and includes the last frame of the show. This frame starts at 1.0 second and ends at 1.1 second.
There are however problems with this video file:
-some video formats can't handle this and round it off to 1 second, throwing away the last frame
-some players, editors and NLEs can't handle this and round it off to 1 second by ignoring the last frame
-when you place 10 such videos in a row in your NLE, the total duration is not 10, but 11 seconds: a whole extra second has been created by all the last frames
-the video does not loop seamlessly
I think this lost last frame is not really a problem. When you export at 25 fps, you only miss 0.04 second. What can happen in this last 0.04 second? If you think this is a problem, you can do the following:
-move the last keyframe a bit to the left
-add an extra, static second to your show and cut most of it in your NLE
-make a screenshot of the last frame and add this in your NLE
michiel, 13 years ago
Thanks a lot Michiel, that's all understood and very helpful.
For the time being I got around the issue as decribed, by exporting Uncompressed (which MEP handles correctly), but next time I'll try your suggestions.
The isuue will only matter with effects like this one, in which all the 'slices' need to be neat and flush again at the end, as they are at the start.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK
terrypin, 13 years ago